From a DJIA low at 3:15pm of about 12,160, the index started moving a little higher for seven or eight minutes, and then literally exploded to the upside, moving up +225 Dow points (about +1.85 pct) in 30 minutes.
The question is, should the SEC post an observer in the CNBC television studio? Should a so-called TV "personality" or financial reporter be permitted to start rumor and innuendo within the last hour of a trading session, particularly on Friday? Should reporters be required to report the news? Should on-air "personalities" who can move markets to extremes be required to provide SEC investigators access to their phone and e-mail records?
Nobody wants to live in a controlled society - certainly not traders of the capital markets - but frankly, these markets are not transparent and the acts of deceit and manipulation that routinely go on necessitate some greater monitoring than happens today.
What's at stake is the credibility of the government, the agencies of government that are involved in the capital markets, the central banks, banking institutions, and so on.
What happened Friday in the last hour of trading was a raid on the shorts, pure and simple. It might have been orchestrated. For certain, there were parties acting in concert if even by common motivation.
I continue to say this: capital markets are losing the interest of the average person because they no longer represent a value pricing mechanism. For a world that needs liquidity to grow and prosper, that's a dangerous precedent. If liquidity contracts to the extreme, the world is facing recession, and perhaps depression.
What happened in the final trading hour of the week was just another warning shot over the bow of a floundering ship. If these incidents continue, uncontrolled, it could be that the next shot is fatal.
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Alan Brochstein
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rdial54
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tessant
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Feb 23 04:57 PMi think it was the rumor that ambac was going to be bailed out...charlie gasparino reported it on friday afternoon...
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J Gold
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Feb 23 06:04 PMlike there was some orchestrated buy or massive short covering..I've never seen anything like that move..how could we as investors get any clarity on what really happened..?..this was just so strange..had nothing to do with ABK or MBI...thats a smoke screen on the push higher..
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Dana Cole
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Feb 23 06:36 PMThere seems to be a lot of people around like Bill Ackman, Meredith Whitney, Prasant Bhatia and others who are determined to make a name for themselves by talking the market down. In particular, Ackman comes off like he's not going to be happy unless Ambac goes out of business or he's in charge of the company himself. You seem to be among that crowd.
If all of you are right, then the short side of the market is definitely where we want to be, and we should be thanking you for handing out the advice.
On the other hand, if there's one thing we've learned from trading for a while, it's that NO ONE is right in the markets all the time. You may be right for a while, even for a long time, but then along comes the day when you are wrong. And vice versa.
Even though the short side of the market has been paying off for quite a while, no matter where the market is, there's always going to be someone who's saying we're headed for a steep fall and there's always going to be someone who's saying we'll be at all-time highs before the year is out. That is not the question.
The question is:
Which is the path of least resistance?
From the tape, I see a lot of folks who are either very scared or are determined to push the market down - all on RUMORS. If they go on shorting and being scared and no one sees any value in lots of companies that are historically underpriced and still functioning without problems, then we've got another 20% down move coming very soon.
However, I also see a lot of guys waiting around with money burning a hole in their pockets, looking for any excuse to buy. If in 2008 the great credit scare of 2007 turns out to be not quite so scary after all, the latter are definitely going to take over for a while. All that will require is that someone with cash gets a handle on what all the CDO's out there are actually worth and begins to snap them up. After all, the Real Estate market goes up and down, but it doesn't go down forever until we don't need land and houses anymore. Do you see that happening sometime soon?
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steve s
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Feb 23 07:07 PMWho is going to pay? AMB is so far underwater.
Paulson sliped last week, when he said, "The banks should come clean."
Anyone should understand, more write downs are in the works. No one wants to admit to a banking crises. This is not a Saving and Loan crises, it is a Banking Crises.
Now is a good time to scare the shorts with a tempting rally, before the next leg down.
Thank you, Mr Greenspan, for the current credit bubble.
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Richard Shinnick
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lex
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Feb 24 12:32 AMPS. I agree with the last post..trying to time the market is futile. We are in a bear market and stocks will most likely go down from here. Just make sure you don't get shaken out by the bear rallies.
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Daniel Trillo
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David Jackson
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Feb 24 02:05 AMFor me, the message of this episode is that most investors should invest for the long term, in which the short-term noise cancels out and the fundamentals dictate prices.
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GKM
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Feb 24 02:10 AMUnfortunately market manipulation is prevalent in the market place as it stands today. There's manipulation like analysts talking their books, people starting rumors with no factual basis, Fed manipulation, PPT manipulation, and even Ackman coming out with a "plan" to save the monolines is probably based in some scheme. I would be willing to bet he will make a ton of money with some hedge against his monoline short position and the tip of the iceberg surfaced on Friday. In fact, the rumor might have come from him or his staff.
At the end of the day there are three things to remember: don't fight the system, the trend is your friend, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Fighting the system is pointless and a lost cause as evidence by the lack of substantive prosecution for the insider trading that plainly goes on. Learn to read the trends through technical analysis. No matter what someone is doing to the market they can't hide their actions in the volume and the price - that always tells the true tale. Finally, the market will always dole out the most pain possible to the greatest number. The weak shorts are going to get boot stomped here so your enemy (the market) will be your friend when you recognize that overall sentiment is extreme (in this case bearish) and you take the other side of it. That is if you are trading this market. If you are just investing, put your money in your mattress for now.
I believe that the overall trend is down but this will be a good opportunity to trade to the long side for some quick dough. Just don't forget that overall trend unless you want some market inflicted pain.
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Serge Birbrair
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Feb 24 06:41 AMIf AMBAC declares bankruptcy instead, than I will fully agree with the author.
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apppro
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contrarian@coalmine
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Feb 24 08:50 AMThat being said, Charlie Gasparino, a muscle-bound, macho man of a financial journalist, who claims access to the inner sanctums of Wall Street (ie The Boardroom), has been allowed for weeks to scream "Fire in the theatre!, the monolines are heading to a quick and painful bankruptcy; my 'sources' tell me so". He reiterated one of these rants of imminent demise on CNBC as late as Friday morning! Then, with a 1/2 hour left in a short trading week, he broadcasts that a "bail out" for Ambac is a certainty, and banks X,Y& Z are lined up to help.
Action/Reaction....sho... squeeze into the close.
On Monday some Power Pundit will reiterate the Financial Meltdown argument, the markets will plunge, and Bill Cara will say "you see, I told so...".
Yawn!
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User 149022
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Feb 24 09:04 AMAll the smug gloaters who were able to scalp a few tics on this run should be commended for their short term prowess (I used to be a pit trader myself), but you are missing the point of what he is saying.
When the market is subject to irresponsible manipulation by a few brokers of information, market efficiency and reliability dies, taking trust with it, and all you have left are scalpers.
Have you ever been in a market where liquidity has dried up because no one wants in? I traded for a short time in the Kansas City Wheat Pit. It was like a neighborhood poker game in those days. Money went from one guy to another, but at the end of the year, most guys were flat. We had to look to bonds, currencies and SPZ to make our money (of course, this is no longer the case in this, or any other ag market).
Congrats to the longs who made money. I would have bot the underlyings myself for the afternoon had I been in front of the computer. But you need to hear what he is saying.
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ET
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Feb 24 09:37 AMYou asked for it, and you got it. Welcome to Mundania.
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pirate
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Feb 24 09:48 AMWhat is proves is that it is a bear market and bulls are rushing back and forth before heading down a cliff. They needs more bulls on the back to push everyone down. Like the bulls we have in the last hour.
One thing about America is the government is broke and people are broke. That is worse than the 70s and I see very dark clouds ahead.
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David Roskoph
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raja
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Feb 24 10:49 AMIf you want to clean it up, then go for the whole thing. Dont whine when the market goes up, just because you are on the wrong side of the fence, or vice versa. Talk of reform - then SEC should bring back the uptick rule; shorting should be banned - how can you sell something that you dont have, even if you are buying it later?? Powerful and rich folks in the market can manipulate so that they can buy back cheap to cover the shorts. I dont need to elaborate with examples - companies have been runied due to one such problem, and there are myriad problems. Can you compensate for the loss to investors ?? Dont tell me you will put the crooks in jail, for it does not get the duped investors their money back. Enron's villians did it, got some jail term and one of them died too - but did the cheated investors get their money back ?? Kick the SEC out for inaction on so many fronts. Stop CNBC/Reuters etc. from reporting any false propaganda.. stop Ackman from repeatedly coming out with 'Dire' news on a day to day basis at the 'right' timing ...
You want a clean slate? then level the playing field and watch as the skeletons fall off the cupboard.
Simple as that.
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t-bird
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littlebucks
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Feb 24 11:39 AMTHANKS
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number2son
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Feb 24 11:59 AMReally? I think I know what you're talking about:
When rumors circulated that Buffet was going to buy Hovnanian ...
oops that caused the builders to rise.
Let's try again ...
When rumors circulated that Buffet was going to buy CountryWide ... oops, darn it, that caused the financials to rally.
Ok, this is harder than I thought ....
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User 155292
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Feb 24 01:01 PMAre you kidding me? This "crap" happens weekly on Wall St. GS probably finished covering their shorts on the day before. Cramer moves the market slightly with his nickel and dime investing viewers. GS moves 100's of billions through their network of brokers and hedge funds.
Yes my friend, it was orchestrated.